Clintons tangle with House Republicans in deposition videos from Epstein probe

nbcnews.com·By Dareh Gregorian, Kyle Stewart and Ryan Nobles
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Noticeable — persuasion techniques worth noting

This article uses emotional language and an 'us vs. them' approach to suggest the Clintons are being unfairly targeted in the Epstein investigation. It glosses over specific details of the questioning, making it seem more like a political attack than a genuine inquiry, to encourage readers to distrust investigations by opposing parties and side with the Clintons.

FATE Analysis

Four dimensions of psychological manipulation: how content captures Focus, exploits Authority, triggers Tribal identity, and engineers Emotion.

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Focus signals

novelty spike
"The House Oversight Committee on Monday released videos of its interviews last week with former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as part of its probe into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein."

The opening sentence highlights the 'release of videos' from interviews about a high-profile, sensitive topic (Epstein probe involving former President and Secretary of State), presenting it as a new development designed to immediately capture attention for a story that has ongoing public interest.

attention capture
"NBC News is reviewing the videos, which are about 4½ hours each and show the former first couple tangling with Republican lawmakers at times. The video, which includes numerous redactions, was posted days after the Clintons sat for interviews with the GOP-led committee to answer questions about Epstein and his co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell."

The mention of 'tangling with Republican lawmakers' and 'numerous redactions' hints at conflict and withheld information, creating intrigue and a 'novelty spike' that encourages readers to continue to uncover what's being discussed.

Authority signals

institutional authority
"The House Oversight Committee on Monday released videos of its interviews last week with former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as part of its probe into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein."

The article immediately establishes the institutional weight of 'The House Oversight Committee' and the formal process of 'interviews' and a 'probe,' lending an air of seriousness and official endorsement to the information conveyed, framing it as part of a legitimate government inquiry.

credential leveraging
"In his interview, Clinton recalled a conversation he once had with Donald Trump about Epstein '20-something years ago.'"

The article uses quotes from former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, leveraging their past high-level governmental positions to add weight to their statements. Even when reporting their testimony, their previous roles imbue their words with a certain gravitas.

Tribe signals

us vs them
"The House Oversight Committee on Monday released videos of its interviews last week with former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as part of its probe into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.NBC News is reviewing the videos, which are about 4½ hours each and show the former first couple tangling with Republican lawmakers at times."

The phrasing 'tangling with Republican lawmakers' immediately establishes an 'us vs. them' dynamic, positioning the Clintons (and by extension, their political alignment) against the inquiring Republican-led committee. This sets up an adversarial narrative that can appeal to existing partisan tribal identifications.

us vs them
"Clinton, asked by Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif., whether the Oversight Committee should question Trump, said, 'That’s for you to decide, but he did know him well.'Hillary Clinton was more direct.“Absolutely,” she said. “He would be on my witness list.”"

This exchange highlights a partisan divide in who should be questioned and implicitly assigns blame or suspicion. The Democratic representative asking about Trump, and Hillary Clinton's direct affirmation, reinforces a political 'us vs. them' dynamic by suggesting that the other side's prominent figures should also be scrutinized, appealing to existing political tribalism.

us vs them
"The video also shows Hillary Clinton getting irate when she found out that Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., had shared a photo of her from the deposition that ended up on social media, which Clinton’s attorney said was a violation of the agreed-upon rules.“I’m done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. You can hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. This is just typical behavior,” Clinton said. “Oh, for heaven’s sake! I’m done, for now.”"

This quote strongly emphasizes the 'us vs. them' dynamic. Clinton's reaction to the Republican representative's actions (Boebert, R-Colo.) creates a clear opposition. Her use of 'you guys' and 'typical behavior' frames the situation as a confrontation between opposing political factions, weaponizing identity by implying that behavior is characteristic of 'the other side'.

Emotion signals

outrage manufacturing
"The House Oversight Committee on Monday released videos of its interviews last week with former President Bill Clinton and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as part of its probe into the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein."

The mention of 'convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein' immediately ties the article to a highly sensitive and morally reprehensible topic, leveraging the public's existing outrage and revulsion towards Epstein's crimes to ensure heightened emotional engagement from the outset.

outrage manufacturing
"In his interview, Clinton recalled a conversation he once had with Donald Trump about Epstein '20-something years ago.'...Trump has said they had a falling-out because he thought Epstein was a 'creep.' Trump has not been accused of any wrongdoing by law enforcement and has denied any wrongdoing involving Epstein."

The article mentions Trump's past association with Epstein and his description of Epstein as a 'creep.' While stating Trump has not been accused of wrongdoing, juxtaposing his name with Epstein in this context, especially after the mention of the Clintons' involvement, subtly stokes outrage or suspicion across different political spectrums, appealing to existing negative sentiments towards any association with Epstein.

moral superiority
"He added: 'I was sad. But it was terrible what she did, and she should be punished. Somebody besides me should make a decision on what it is.'"

Bill Clinton's statement, 'I was sad. But it was terrible what she did, and she should be punished,' attempts to align himself with the morally correct stance against Ghislaine Maxwell's actions. This can evoke a shared sense of moral superiority in the reader, endorsing the condemnation of Maxwell and, by extension, the Clintons' apparent alignment with justice.

outrage manufacturing
"During her deposition, Clinton got into a testy exchange with Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., who asked about various pictures of her husband with other women that appeared to have been taken while he was traveling with Epstein. The photos included one in which he was getting a back massage while he was clothed and seated.“When you saw photos of your husband in a hot tub, laying on a beach and getting massaged by other women, and you knew that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in some of these trips and these things, did it concern you at all?” Mace asked."

The specific details of the questions posed by Rep. Mace regarding Bill Clinton's 'hot tub' and 'massage' photos while on trips with Epstein are designed to evoke shock, scandal, and moral outrage. These vivid descriptions directly appeal to the reader's emotions and societal norms about appropriate behavior, especially when linked to a convicted sex offender.

outrage manufacturing
"The video also shows Hillary Clinton getting irate when she found out that Rep. Lauren Boebert, R-Colo., had shared a photo of her from the deposition that ended up on social media, which Clinton’s attorney said was a violation of the agreed-upon rules.“I’m done with this. If you guys are doing that, I am done. You can hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. This is just typical behavior,” Clinton said. “Oh, for heaven’s sake! I’m done, for now.”"

Hillary Clinton's strong emotional reaction – getting 'irate' and saying, 'I’m done with this... This is just typical behavior' – is presented to manufacture outrage, either at Clinton's perceived obstruction or at the alleged breach of rules, depending on the reader's pre-existing biases. The dramatic nature of the exchange serves to spike emotional engagement.

Narrative Analysis (PCP)

How the article reshapes thinking: Perception (what beliefs are targeted), Context (what information is shifted or omitted), and Permission (what behavior is being encouraged).

What it wants you to believe

The article aims to instill the belief that inquiries into powerful figures regarding their connections to Jeffrey Epstein are fraught with political maneuvering and attempts to deflect blame. It wants the reader to believe that the Clintons are being unfairly targeted by Republicans, who are using the Epstein probe for political gain.

Context being shifted

The article shifts context by highlighting the perceived 'testy exchanges' and 'typical behavior' of Republican lawmakers, implying that their questioning is inherently combative and politicized, thus making the Clintons' frustration seem justified and reasonable. It positions the depositions primarily as political theater rather than fact-finding missions.

What it omits

The article omits detailed context regarding the specific line of questioning that led to the 'testy exchanges,' particularly from the Republican lawmakers' perspective or a neutral journalistic summary. While it mentions 'pizzagate' and Bill Clinton's 'hot tub' photos, it doesn't provide enough detail to understand the full scope of what was being investigated or the specific allegations being pursued by the committee, beyond the very general 'Epstein probe'. This omission makes the Clintons' responses and reactions seem more reactive to political attacks than evasive to legitimate questions.

Desired behavior

The reader is nudged to view committee investigations, especially those involving politically charged figures, with skepticism, particularly when conducted by an opposing party. It subtly encourages dismissing contentious exchanges as mere political posturing, allowing readers to side with those who appear to be under attack rather than critically examining the substance of the questions.

SMRP Pattern

Four manipulation maintenance tactics: Socializing the idea as normal, Minimizing concerns, Rationalizing with logic, and Projecting blame.

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Socializing
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Minimizing
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Rationalizing

"Clinton told the panel that Trump “never said anything to make me think he was involved with anything improper in regard to Epstein, either.”"

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Projecting

"Clinton, asked by Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif., whether the Oversight Committee should question Trump, said, “That’s for you to decide, but he did know him well.”"

Red Flags

High-severity indicators: silencing dissent, coordinated messaging, or weaponizing identity to shut down debate.

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Silencing indicator
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Controlled release (spokesperson test)

"Bill Clinton said on X after his hours of testimony, "Though my brief acquaintance with Epstein ended years before his crimes came to light, and though I never witnessed during our limited interactions, any indication with what was truly going on, I offered the little I do know, in the hopes that it would help prevent anything like this from ever happening again.""

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Identity weaponization

Techniques Found(4)

Specific propaganda techniques identified using the SemEval-2023 academic taxonomy of 23 techniques across 6 categories.

Loaded LanguageManipulative Wording
"former first couple tangling with Republican lawmakers at times."

The word 'tangling' implies a contentious and perhaps aggressive interaction, framing the Clintons' responses in a negative light without neutrally describing their engagement.

Exaggeration/MinimisationManipulative Wording
"This is just typical behavior,” Clinton said. “Oh, for heaven’s sake! I’m done, for now.”"

Hillary Clinton's exclamation 'Oh, for heaven's sake!' and a declaration of being 'done' exaggerate her frustration and perhaps attempts to minimize the legitimacy of the questioning by framing it as a waste of time.

DoubtAttack on Reputation
"When you saw photos of your husband in a hot tub, laying on a beach and getting massaged by other women, and you knew that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in some of these trips and these things, did it concern you at all?” Mace asked."

This question, posed by Rep. Mace, subtly casts doubt on Hillary Clinton's judgment or awareness by implying she should have been concerned about her husband's activities in light of Epstein's involvement, without direct evidence of impropriety by Bill Clinton.

Questioning the ReputationAttack on Reputation
"You didn’t have any feelings about young women massaging your husband?” Mace continued."

This question directly attacks and questions Hillary Clinton's character and reaction to the situation, rather than focusing on factual information, attempting to portray her as insensitive or complicit.

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